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Sound ironic? It is, we're not really "hating" hate, but trying to make a point about how hate is the most ugly thing in this world.

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An Anti-Hate Community where EVERYONE is welcome, please respect others.

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Stand up against hate, if you see ugly hate on a wiki comment, or of someone sends it to you in a message, speak out against it. Don't let your silence imply your agreement! It doesn't have to turn into a fight, if nothing else you can simply say, "Your hateful comments are making me uncomfortable."


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"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule."

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This wiki was named from something I once heard someone say,
"I hate people who hate hate"


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"Hatred paralyses life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it."

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"Intolerance: a veil worn to disguise fear and ignorance."

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2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: Also, I'd like to specificaly invite any members or visitors who are not pro-gay to comment here if you would like, as long as you honor our anti-hate environmet.

2006-04-26 [L V F]: -dances and eats my cookie-

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: I doubt that their views on sex outside of marriage would've changed, oddly enough. The mindset was very different back then. Of course I'm not sure...but it's just that women were treated much differently back then.

2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: I'm not so sure, it is easy for me to imagine that our veiws about sex out of wedlock and the way women were treated differantly both came about because of the biology of our sexuality and the results of having unprotected sex. I am sure that things would be very, very differand today if the birth control pill was invented in 500 b.c.

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: That's probably true.

2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: It's also probably true that there will be groups that will never support any type of sex outside of marriage, no matter what changes come or might have came.

2006-04-26 [RabidSphinx]: if i had a choice, i would never have sex...but that is just not realistic in today's world apparently...all i can hope for is to wait till marriage so that i'll only have the one partner...

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: Okay! Back on up! The whole thing about premarital sex? Think...Guidelines. It's a way to prevent people from being hurt. That is why it is in the Bible, to my understanding. Marriage is a way to kinda prevent such things to happen.

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: Remember this...Everyone has their own choice when it comes to lifestyle. Do what works for you. What may work for you, may not work for others. Some people can have multiple sex partners. Some people cannot bare the thought. Some people enjoy using drugs. Other people frown upon such things. Some people like healthy diets and excercise. Some people enjoy pigging out and lazing around.

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: Everyone is different. Everyone is unique. There are some lifestyles that I would not want to have, but I don't frown upon those who pursue them. I love their individuality and I admire them for it. I think that that is a good way for people to live in harmony.

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: It is all about respect.

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: *breaks the giant cookie up and passes it around*

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: *nibbles on the cookie*

2006-04-26 [Drink Bleach And Die]: Thanx so much for the banner, Wendy! I'm gonna put it up right now.

2006-04-26 [Drink Bleach And Die]: I totally agree with most of your views! It's nice to hear that other people think the same way I do!

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: *agrees with [Wendy]* well said! *munches piece of cookie*

2006-04-27 [L V F]: Hey wendy i wish my mom was like you. make life so much easier.

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: Awwwww! That is soooo sweet! I think that that is one of the nicest compliments that I have ever recieved! Awwww...!

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: *prints out some adoption papers* I look forward to being a mommy someday soon. *sets up a little office with a sign*

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: The sign reads: Wanting to create a loving, accepting, and nurturing parent? Talk to [Wendy]. Whether you are unhappy at home or need something a little extra, she will try to be there.

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: =P

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: aww how sweet *reads sign* "looking to adopt. will pay cash" you think that's the way to do it?

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: What do you mean?

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: hmmm I was kidding :P

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: haha, how much will you give me for my nieghbors kids :p

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: [Wendy]: I tend to agree also, actually I think it is great that we are all so diferant, what a happy world it would be if we could all learn to celibrate our diversity.. ^_^

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: I would do it free. Adopting any of you. I wanna have children someday soon after Michael and I have been married and settled in for a little while. ^_^

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: I bet you two make a super-cute couple :P

2006-04-27 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm i agree

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: i hate diversity...it annoys me and makes my OC flare up

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: i hate hate :p but seriously tho, diversity really is the spice of life, and the human race stronger because we aren't all the same.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: i like people all being the same...it's fair that way, and if we are all the same there would be nothing to fight over because whatever you have i have aswell...that's why i like androginous (sp) people...look sort'a girly-male/female, have no idea what they are but whatever....

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: Even if everyone was the same people would still fight over things. There are the egotistical people that would make themselves out to be better anyway...even if everyone was exactly the same.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: if we were exactly the same, either EVERYONE would be egotistical, or none of us would....unless you do not grasp what "the SAME" means

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: I thought you mean materialistically and physically not emotionally. And if everyone was egotistical then the fighting would be worse.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: well, when i think everyone should be the same, i would only pick the better qualities, and leave the bad ones lacking, but not absent, because you need the contrast to appriciate the good

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: It doesn't work tho, people still find reasons to fight when they don't love one another. Ever read "The Sneetches" by Dr. Suess?

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: nope. he scared me as a child.

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: I have to agree with zoloft, diversity is better in the long run. If everyone was the same then people could die. If everyone was a brain surgeon who would take care of the smaller things. If everyone was a waitress who would cook the food?

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: "people could die" well, THERE is the smartest statement of the day....guess what, people die all the time already.;...

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: it's a good thing we are all different, so no one can die...

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: I wasn't implying that people don't die. Don't ridicule me today I won't just let it slide. I know that people die, but it would be more dangerous if we were all the same.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: *shakes head* you just make me laugh.

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: It is basically a story showing how silly it can be to discriminate based generalization about our differances.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: yay for diversity...if we were all the same we could be "dangerous" but heaven knows that our diversity hasn't lead to nukes, biological weapons, genocide....ect.

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: Fine. I'm an idiot. ::shakes head and walks off::

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: you said it, not me

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: Oh, come on now [RabidSphinx] I think you are being rude. Evolution does favor diversity for survival. This is the very reason we have evolved to reproduce the way we do intead of just making clone copies of ourselves like some simple tiny creatures do.

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: But to ease the point I was making into the conversation: Yes diversity is dangerous. But so is the whole thing with people being the same. The world is going to suck, people are going to die. Get over it, it's called life.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: rude? simply not dissagreeing with someone when they call themselves stupid is rude now? well damn

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: by the way, it isn't diversity that has led to those things, it is hate.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: so what you are saying is that, eigher way (divers or the same) life is going to suck, we are going to fight and hate, and all that shit? well then, what's wrong with my point that we should all be the same? no harm can come of it according to all you said.

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: And there are good things in life as well, you've just got to deal with the bad stuff. If you want to change things fine, but you can't just reprogram people to be the same. Be more accepting of who they are now and pray they get better. Try to help people more rather than critique and judge them immediately. And no I'm not talking specifically about you [RabidSphinx].

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: i was being hypathetical...idiot

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: *finishes reading story* aaawww sneetches ^_^

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: Yes, I feel that was rude, and so was being a smart ass and laughing at her comment. If you disagree then you are most welcome to talk about that, but comments like, *shakes head* you just make me laugh." and THERE is the smartest statement of the day.... are quite rude, and I know that you know this. You are attacking her (in a semi-subtle sacastic way)

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: ::bites her tongue and walks off:: Thanks zoloft...

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: I must read really slow -_-'

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: Please Sarah, you are being disrespectful and hurting people's feelings. If you want to keep posting here you'll have to stop it, if you are in a bad mood it is okay for you to just come back later if you can't help but take it out on people.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: sarcastic? me? never...what do you want from me? people say dumb things and a laugh...read her cokments, i merely wrote what i and Goatt were thinking. people are rude, get over it, that's life...part of being diverce...yay...

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: My comments may not have been as well worded as yours but at least I could spell mine correctly, and I didn't have to insult people to get my point across. If you don't like people being diverse then find a community where everyone is the same, but don't force yourself on everyone else who may disagree with you.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: well worded but misspelled maybe...you blind? i am...can't see, forgive me...this wiki is about tolerating people...i'm different than you...so tolerate it...

2006-04-27 [Bookwyrm]: And yet you are not tolerating me.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: i do not tolerate stupidity...i draw a line somewhere...besides, i have nothing against you, just the stupid things you say

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: Yes, many people are rude, but not here. This is a safe zone and I feel your being rude was not honoring that. Even to call another persons comments dumb is also rude. Maybe she didn't completely articulate her thought in a way that your understood, but I know exactly what she meant, but even if she was wrong in what she had said, that would be no reason to mock her, and mocking is not allowed here.

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: mock mock mock...suck a cock...i'm leaving

2006-04-27 [zoloftzantac]: That is enough [RabidSphinx], you are disrespecting my wiki. Please go away until you can follow the rules and honor the safe zone. You will be welcomed back at that time, when ever it is.

2006-04-27 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ummm [RabidSphinx] you are being a little unrespectfull

2006-04-27 [Lust]: *Change subject for all*

2006-04-27 [Lust]: So.. If you hate hate.. Isnt that just like saying Love?

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: no, because you can hate hate and still not love anyone

2006-04-27 [kittykittykitty]: well you could have a point lovelove... hate and love are opposites? hate is supposedly the strongest feeling you can have against something. Surely the strongest feeling against the opposite to love would result in... love? Well... it works in theory

2006-04-27 [Lust]: I like your theory Kitty! Was sort of what I was thinking but I got really confused! Heh. So I hate hate and I love love means sort of the same thing. Love. And Love is great!

2006-04-27 [Lust]: As in.. I LOVE YOU KITTY!! <3 =P

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: Now then, children! Let's not fight! Hee hee hee!

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: "Be excellent to each other."

2006-04-27 [Lust]: Who is fighting? We are all making love! <3

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: Make love, not war, but use a condom. <3

2006-04-27 [Lust]: LMAO! Of course! *pokes* Do you have the condom? j/k!!

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: ew

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: *calls for the chinchilla squad to bring her condoms*

2006-04-27 [Lust]: WHOO!! I use to wonder.. Do condoms grow on trees? (j/k)

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: *the chinchilla squad brings male condoms, female condoms, spermicide, diaphragms, dental dams, and lip gloss*

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: Oooo! Lip gloss! *applies the lip gloss* Mmmm! Strawberry!

2006-04-27 [Lust]: It smells good! Mmm!

2006-04-27 [RabidSphinx]: eww....><

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: Yep! *sniffs spermicide with [Lust]*

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: =D

2006-04-27 [Lust]: Could we get high off the fumes?

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: I have no clue. O.<, I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. Sniffing many a thing can cause people to get high. I oughta research "spermicide" on www.wikipedia.com

2006-04-27 [Lust]: Aparintly you can get high of glue?

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermicide Nope. Doesn't say. LOL! People still have the Coke and Mountain Dew myth! That's been around since the 80's. Idiots!

2006-04-27 [Lust]: O.o whats that? I know one with MD is kills sperm

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: It's ridiculous. SOme people think putting an ice pack on a guys penis will freeze and kill the sperm thus creating safe sex. Some people think you can get pregnant on the first time or pregnant if they have never had their period. Some people think that hymens are a sign of virginity even though some girls are born without or with only strings of skin over the opening. So silly!

2006-04-27 [Wendy]: I love to research medical things.

2006-04-27 [Lust]: Well thing is that with heat it is supose to kill off some sperm. And caffeen is as well. So it lowers the sperm rate but its still like a 95% chance of getting pregnant o.O

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: True. Lol!

2006-04-28 [Lust]: *nods* I had to hear a speach about this.. My friends are truely screwed up!

2006-04-28 [Lust]: But I love them! Of course

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: Of course! They make life fun and interesting. ^__^

2006-04-28 [Lust]: Ohh do they ever! Not one is slightly normal so its always interesting with what everyone comes up with the next day!

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: Well, one can become pregnant even if one have never had their period ...

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: Yes. That is what I said.

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: The youngest pregnancy ever recorded was that of a 5 year old girl.

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: Need the proof? Here it is: http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

2006-04-28 [L V F]: How is it possible to get preg that young? unless they hit puberty really really early

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: Read it to find out! That is why I posted it. She began having periods at around the age of 3. She had fully developed breasts, etc.

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: The website is http://www.snopes.com and its purpose is to find out truth behing urban legends. All citations are listed.

2006-04-28 [L V F]: allright

2006-04-28 [Lust]: Next topic!

2006-04-28 [kittykittykitty]: Reading that article sparks a few different thoughts... but it's mostly quite disturbing o_O It also leads to my next question: if the wiki hates hate, and is a safe zone that accepts all kinds of people, does that mean peadophiles, rapists and murderers are welcome too?

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: Hmmmm...Those would be people that would likely promote hatred, wouldn't you think?

2006-04-28 [Wendy]: I would think that they should be in an uplifting environment like ours, but perhaps in a place where it would be more conducive to their recovery.

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: [kittykittykitty]: Yes, everyone is welcome, but they all have to follow the rules.

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: If a peadophile starts posting here we won't know it anyway unless they start talking about haing sexually abused childeren, at that point I would report his IP address to the police. Same goes for rapists or murderers. On the other hand, I would be open to talking with people who have the desire to abuse childeren, rape and murder if they want to talk about those things in a constructive way to try to better themselves, but I would also tell them to turn themselves in and/or get proffesional help.

2006-04-28 [L V F]: -keeps quiet on the topic of rape-

2006-04-28 [Lust]: *hugs [L V F] even though she dosnt know her/him but thinks she understands* 

2006-04-28 [Lust]: Again! Next topic...! Umm.. Boooks? Food? Umm... Popcorn? Porn? Umm...

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: I don't think porn would be too much of a subject change there...

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: And popcorn is food...

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: But I vote for books or food...preferably food I think...maybe...possibly...::disappears::

2006-04-28 [Lust]: I dont think popcorn is food.. Its to.. Weird! I'm hungry...

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: Popcorn is too food o.o you're an odd little duck you are...::pets::

2006-04-28 [Lust]: I cant help it..

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: It's okay. I'm a not-so-lucky duck.

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: Hey, what happened to the topic? I'm a naughty pervert duck :p

2006-04-28 [Bookwyrm]: It was changed. What else is new? And I'm sure you are zoloft XD

2006-04-28 [Lust]: Quack? ZZ we are both ducks.. !

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: that's what you are

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: Yep, I'm a freak ^_^

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: i hate freaks....

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: I know [RabidSphinx], but you should try to not be so hard on yourself ;)

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: ha ha...very funny...go fuck yourself

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: What's going on for you these days? You have been in such a shity mood ...

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: if you eat a live frog in the morning, nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day.

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: William G. T. Shedd is great, and speaking of frogs, he also said, "Frogs are smart - they eat what bugs them." ;)

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: unfortunately, cannibalism is frowned upon in society

2006-04-28 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: hmm that should be changed.....i umm meen...umm *hides in corner*

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: Not everyone lets that stop them. http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/cannibals1.html

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: i seriously considered being a cannibal when young

2006-04-28 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm actuarly i dont think the idea of eating someone is such a good idea eny more

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: it still appeals to me...great for an insanity plea when i'm caught after killing so many people to eat a few of them...it seems to upset people...

2006-04-28 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm you hav a point

2006-04-28 [zoloftzantac]: Well, as long as you are killing people anyways .... why not eat them?

2006-04-28 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm true true....but still why kill people enyway

2006-04-28 [RabidSphinx]: must i list the reasons? jeeze...

2006-04-28 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: well you can if you want....but the only reasons for killing people in my head are.....1. i hate them....2.they annoy me.....and 3. im bored

2006-04-29 [Bookwyrm]: Woo! Pretty banner zoloft ^_^

2006-04-29 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm i agree

2006-04-29 [zoloftzantac]: thanks ^_^ it didn't come out how I had planned, but I still like it way better than the old banner.

2006-04-29 [RabidSphinx]: it doesn't hurt my eyes as much....

2006-04-29 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: lol

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: I think it gives you street cred zoloft...don't ask why.

2006-04-30 [L V F]: -hugs to all-

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: Yay ::ca-lings::

2006-04-30 [L V F]: -chuckles-

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: What? o.o I like hugs...especially when I'm feeling stressed and ill like I have been.

2006-04-30 [L V F]: awwww -hugs [Bookwyrm] alot-

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: Yay ^_^ ::hugs back...and offers a cookie::

2006-04-30 [L V F]: nah im good thanks. -gives more hugs-

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: ^_^ Okies...yeah I'm feeling a bit ill..even I don't want one of my cookies...Thanks so much for the hugs ^_^ ::hugs::

2006-04-30 [L V F]: i love giveing out hugs. so anytime u need one just say something

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: Ditto.

2006-04-30 [L V F]: im gonna go lay down my back is killing me see ya guys

2006-04-30 [Bookwyrm]: Ciao! Feel better ^_^

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: I have scoliosis. I also have back trauma from a car accident. Sometimes I need painkillers. Sometimes I wonder if I'll have a difficult pregnancy due to this. I feel for ya.

2006-04-30 [Lust]: I also have scoliosis!! My back is curving, and my mustles are getting week in my back and giving in so it started moving again! I may have to have surgery! You that far? Or just a small curve?

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: awww can you get better from that

2006-04-30 [zoloftzantac]: Not all by itself, but yes, it can be corrected.\

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: yay well i hope ot dose get 'corrected' soon

2006-04-30 [zoloftzantac]: An ex of mine had this. (how many ex gfs does this guy have anyways ...) If it is bad enough to do something then they have you wear a large body brace, but that only stops the curvature of the spine from getting worse. I think you pretty much need surgery to correct it.

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ohh....umm well..

2006-04-30 [Lust]: They have to put a medle wier into your spine. I'm to olf to wear the brace it wont help stop it anymore. Its just if I am strong enough or not o.O (What the doc/3ciopactor..(sp)) said. O.o..

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: i hope you will be ok

2006-04-30 [Lust]: Ha ha.. I always am in the end *pokes* Plus my back may get strong and kick my spine into place (stop it from moving) Soo I will be fine! But its really hard working back mustles, but I try!

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ok ;)

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: My back is curved like an s and is balanced out. I actualy took a pic of the x-ray. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Ryu108W/Myback.jpg Freakish, eh?

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: I'm too lazy to do the exercises they taught me in physical therapy. One of my hips is higher than the other. Bugs me a bit. I don't like asymmetry.

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: For more info on scoliosis, there is always Wikipedia! The online encyclopedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoliosis

2006-04-30 [Lust]: lmao! I already hear enough about it... =P

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: well as long as you will be ok

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: Me? I'll be fine. It hurts almost all the time. Either sharp pains or aches. Sometimes really bad pains. I have painkillers. I don't take them much. I sometimes worry about when Michael and I try for a baby. I dunno how the pregnancy will go due to my back problems. That is something that I need to consult with my doctor about. I try not to pay attention to my back, but I do know that I can be limited in activities. Other than that? I just live normally.

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ok...im sure evrything will be fine with you having a baby

2006-04-30 [Lust]: Some one who knows my pain.. I kind of like you... A lot... *blinks*

2006-04-30 [Lust]: And your baby will odo great! I mean the doctors we have today. And if your body is strong, whcih is must be, you shall be fine!

2006-04-30 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm i agree with ^^ that

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: Hee hee hee! We want a girl. We think that the name "Ophelia" sounds pretty. Greek and Shakespearean. It is also the name of Jamie Lee Curtis's character in one of my favorite movies, Trading Places. She was stunning in that movie.

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: The problem with the name "Ophelia" is trying to find a good middle name. Ophelia _____ Ochoa. Hmmm... It's the initials. Another issue is the stupid pick-up lines (it sounds like "I'll feel ya") and prolly getting Shakespeare references. It can also be a bitch to write the letter "O" in cursive cuz it doesn't quite connect with the other letters.

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: What kind of nickname could she have? What should her middle name be? The right middle name, combined wit the first, can create a good nickname.

2006-04-30 [Wendy]: Taylor Lynne could be "Taylynne" for example. Amelia Jane could be "AJ".

2006-05-01 [Lust]: That is something you have to decide!

2006-05-01 [Wendy]: Opinions are always nice.

2006-05-01 [Wendy]: Michael has suggested Ophelia Arianna Ochoa and I think that it's pretty nice. What do you all think?

2006-05-01 [Lust]: I'm not one to ask.. Heh.. And I shall never have kids so I dont think about it

2006-05-01 [Wendy]: Some people want children, some people don't. It's great.

2006-05-01 [Lust]: Heh. Each to their own I guess?

2006-05-01 [Wendy]: Mmhm. Some people wanna get married and some don't. Some people want to have a really big career, others just want enough to get them what they need.

2006-05-01 [Lust]: And some want to be alone, some want to be with people 24/7. Some have a heart, some dont.

2006-05-01 [Wendy]: And some are idiots. I swear...

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